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The idiotic practicality of alcohol interlocks

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I know I'm breaking my self-imposed intermission, but study is seriously boring.

Drager Alcohol Interlock XT deviceI caught a ride to uni yesterday with mum (see my previous post about me and driving) so I was forced to listen to 3AW. Usually it's just old farts whinging about irrelevant things, but there was actually something interesting this morning. The host was getting a demonstration of alcohol interlock devices by Dräger Australia (I'm pretty sure it was them anyway) after one of Bracksy's many committees recommended they be installed on all new cars and a new drink-driving victims group, Working Against Culpable Driving, went further and suggested they be installed on all cars, new and existing. 3AW story here.

Alcohol interlocks are basically devices that prevent your car from starting until you pass a breath test. So you jump in the car, start power to car, blow then suck in the device, and if you're in the clear, start the car.

Drager Interlock testing process
From the device's product info document

Why a blow then suck action? Apparently to stop you from circumventing the device by fitting a filled balloon on it and letting the air go. And apparently it's 'hard' to bypass it electrically.

But what if you get a mate to pass the test for you? This is one of the hardest issues to solve. No problems for this device though - it'll prompt you for a retest every 15 minutes (adjustable, but that's a possible setting), also stopping you from drinking while driving. Brilliant! Or is it…

Drager Interlock Retest instructions
From the device's instruction manual, page 12

Let's say you're doing a drive from the outer suburbs to the city, taking freeways where possible so the trip takes about an hour. That means you'll get prompted for a retest at least 3 times, if not 4.

So when your retest time comes, it starts beeping, giving you a few minutes to perform it. Now we all know how testy the coppers are over us even touching our mobiles when we're driving (even at red traffic lights), so obviously we have to pull over before doing the test. So we pull over, do the test and we're off again.

That's the easy situation.

What if you're on a busy freeway and unable to get to the shoulder lane?

What if you're in the no-emergency-lane Citylink tunnels? The latest incident with 3 people dying is still fresh in many people's minds.

What if you're stuck in a city standstill, unable to move? Remember, you are unable to do the retest because of the mobile phone laws (cannot be used even if vehicle is stationary, unless parked), which presumably apply given you need to divert attention from driving to do the retest, even if it's short. After all, a short mobile call isn't allowed.

Not to mention the beeping and impending car doom's probably driving you mental. As if we need more aggravated drivers on the road.

And what happens when you ignore or fail the retest? Well, according to Vicroads' guide for the system implemented for repeat drink drivers,

Vicroads alcohol interlock retest FAQ
From the info booklet (page 20) on Victoria's Alcohol Interlock Program

Think of the traffic snarls as we see cars immobilised in the middle of lanes, blocking traffic, unable to move. What if just at that point in time you needed to accelerate to avoid a collision with a truck, then you get seriously injured? Who's responsible?

And that's only you. Now let's consider what happens when hypothetically, there's 100% penetration.

You would have thousands of people pulling over 24/7 to do their retest. We don't have that much space on our roads for that many cars to stop! Some inner-city roads don't even have shoulders! And think of how slow traffic would move with cars constantly needing to stop on the shoulder lane to do the retest! It's bad enough with drivers weaving in and out now, what's gonna happen when people HAVE to weave in and out just to get to a safe place to stop? Not to mention how goddamn annoying it'll be. Why should everyone be punished when a minority can't control themselves?

While some of the other bits of this device are well thought out, this bit clearly isn't. It is an idiotic idea thought out by someone who obviously doesn't drive, here at least. It's simply a ridiculous intrusion into the way we drive, and unless we get massive infrastructure changes to cater for the consequences of this, it's unworkable. Period. And without protection against drivers getting others to do the test, the device itself is ineffective - no, I seriously doubt the guilt of allowing a drunk driver to drive is enough to stop sober people from doing the test for them.

And this is coming from someone who dislikes driving anyway, and avoids driving when possible. Wonder what frequent drivers think...

Did I mention the device costs 1600 bucks, and 220 bucks to install per car? Not to mention the ongoing costs of consumables and calibration.

I'm getting all this info from the device manufacturer's website at http://www.draeger.com/STms/internet/site/MS/internet/AU-en/ms/Products/Detection/AlcoDrug/DragerInterlockXT/pd_draeger_interlock.jsp?KNC=BC-AP&HBX_PK=Interlock&HBX_OU=50, the Vicroads' Alcohol Interlock Program page at http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/c_drinkinterlock.html and the radio segment yesterday morning. Hopefully I'm wrong about the how the retest works and its consequences, but if so, how will they still a third-party doing the test? This just sounds like someone desperately looking for something to endorse for their own purposes without considering the wider implications.

I don't claim to know how to solve the situation with drink drivers, but this clearly is not the right solution. I'm interested in seeing its effectiveness at the moment with repeat drink drivers, and how they're dealing with the device's interference with their driving.

P.S. And what if you have just used mouthwash, like when you're rushing out the door in the morning or late to your hot date? Well you're stuffed there too - you'll have to wait 15 minutes until the alcohol residue leaves your mouth, and no, rinsing with water doesn't work apparently.

Alcohol interlock 'mouthwash conditions'
From the device's instruction manual, page 8

UPDATE (2/6/2007): Added in 3AW story link and name and link for victims group. Plus clarified some bits. The blog at http://www.duiblog.com/ is worth checking out too - details a lot of the issues with drink driving in the US, in particular the court system, chain of evidence and accuracy of breathalysers. Did you know you can lower your BAC by hyperventilating before a test, and that the yeast in bread gives you a BAC?

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Technology doesn't stop people from being stupid, it never has.

Giving people bigger penalties for drink driving, impound their cars and forced rehab would probably be more effective. If you could lose your license for drink driving, people would be more careful.

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Sam said:

Agreed, but then alcohol interlocks may be an 'easier' solution (for the government) given the chronic shortage of cops on the beat these days, especially around the outer areas of Melbourne. Increased penalties without matched enforcement won't be much of a deterrent.

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Bob said:

First, I haven't had anything to drink in over four years.

I have a Draeger interlock installed in my car (pre-XT) model as that's all that was available from the one local company.

My problem is that it doesn't work as it should and creates excessive problems. You have to suck/blow just right!

1. Didn't suck hard enough.

2. Didn't suck/blow quick enough.

3. Blew to soft.

4. Blew to hard.

5. Didn't blow long enough.

6. Any combination of the above.

I'm allowed 10 tries before a lockout scenario.  The first time I failed was for a re-test just as I was getting ready to turn car off and get gas.  After several tries, the horn blew. After a few more the horn started blowing every 20 seconds and the lights are flashing.  Now, I'm driving through a busy suburban neighborhood with the horn and lights going while trying to get the interlock to accept a blow test.  Finally about 5 mins and 20-25 attempts, it accepted the test and passed me which stopped the horn and lights.

The second time I was at a hot construction site and after 10 tries the car went into lockdown for 15 mins before I could try again (which I did and got it started).

The third time I had a problem. I got a re-test and after 6 blows, it said disabled and while I was driving and started a 15 min lockout countdown. Two and one-half mins later at a congested traffic light, the horn and lights started going off.  I pulled into a parking lot and turned the car off till the rest of the 15 mins expired and restarted the car.

Note: The first & third problem are contradictary as to how it's supposed to function. I beleve the third is what was supposed to happen.  None the less, getting this to work as it's supposed to has become a major problem.

The fourth problem today was that it totally lost it's logic.  I started the car and going down the interstate. Instead of the first 15 min re-test I was expecting, it said re-test after about 10 mins.  I blew and passed the rolling re-test.  However, instead of putting dot's on the screen it says "OK to Start" as if I was ready to start the car for the first time or had shut the car off and had a 4 min window to re-start without testing. It was stuck in a loop. Every 4 mins now going down the interstate it's goes into a 10 sec warmup countdown and ask for another test.  Each time I pass it say's "Ok to Start" again and waits another 4 mins.  Bottom line is it got confused about when the car is turned on and off. I'm heading back to the dealer again in the morning!

Design flaw: It has a display measuring bars which can't be seen while taking the test. It also provides to tones to gauges the success or not of a test.  Being hearing impaired, I cannot hear the tones. There is no volume control, tone adjustments, or options for external amp/speakers.  I have currently overcome this by buying a $25 2" amp with a microphone and headphone jack from Radio Shack and taping it to the back of the box which means turning on the amp and inserting an earbud in addition to having to turn the stereo down and the air conditioning off every time this ask for a re-test all while under a 5 min time restraint while driving.

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Sam said:

Wow, thanks for the long and detailed comment on your experiences with alcohol interlocks, Bob.

Granted you're using an older model, but many of your problems also highlight the conceptual flaws with these devices and the effect they have on real-life situations.

I presume you are being required by law to have one of these devices fitted from past offences, but even then I think it's ridiculous that you have to put up with not only a faulty device, but one that seems to be very difficult to operate, not designed with the wide range of drivers in mind and a potential hazard to other road users. There is no way innocent drivers will accept such an intrusion into their daily lives - I'd argue that these devices will cause more fatal traffic incidents than lives saved.

Road-safety campaigners really need to get off their high-horses sometimes, and actually try out their solutions before advocating for them. I'll bet no member of the WACD group has an alcohol interlock device fitted, or has even driven with one for a significant period of time at all. If only they'd read posts and comments like these, and consult people who are already using them. I for one, would be very interested in seeing what their response to this post and your comments are.

after i blow a positive on the interlock, is there anyway i can delete this before my monthly appointment?

thanks

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Bob said:

Granted you're using an older model, but many of your problems also highlight the conceptual flaws with these devices and the effect they have on real-life situations.

That's true it was required and it was an older model.  However, it's the only one the local dealer would install.  When I asked, I was ask why and shrugged off.  My opinion is that he had a large inventory of these models and had no plans to spend the money required for newer models.  Bottom line current model = whatever the dealer installs in your car.  Fortunatly, I don't do a lot of driving anyway and the device was thankfully un-installed in November.  It required way to much attention especially since I couldn't hear it ask for re-test and had to keep watching the lights while driving.  

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